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What if the key to releasing physical and emotional clutter isn’t found in a closet… but outside your front door?

In my conversation with Heather Aardema on the School of Living Lighter Podcast, we explore how reconnecting with the natural world can make letting go feel easier, more intuitive, and deeply nourishing.

If your home, schedule, or heart has felt heavy… this episode offers a fresh, freeing way back to yourself.

This episode dives into what it really means to live in relationship with the more-than-human world. I share stories from my childhood—especially my bond with my dog Jenny—and how those early connections opened the path toward environmental education, nature-based spiritual coaching, and interspecies communication. We talk about kinship, deep listening, the collapse of old systems, and how our dogs often act as guides in ways we barely grasp. It’s a conversation about remembering what we already know.

“No matter where we are, the natural world is all around us.” In this episode, we follow Deb Matlock’s journey through Wild Rhythms and discover how we can strengthen our connection to our wild selves and the more than human world.

During her long career, Deb has committed herself to growing and supporting the field of EE by participating in numerous activities and CAEE committees.